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six, with inner strength or mental stability, we can enjoy all kinds of adversity. seven, love, compassion and concern for others are real sources of happiness. i feel better already. that's all for us tonight. "ac 360" starts right now. we begin tonight keeping them honest. where mitt romney stands on illegal immigration. one to immigration hard liners, the other to win over latino votee. we're asking because no matter what you think, what side of the debate you're on, it's important to know what the machb who wants to be president would actually do if he becomes president. it's hard to tell. the supreme court heard organize arguments on the strict immigration law. checking a person's immigration
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status while enforcing other laws if they reasonably suspect he's in the country illegally. we ask where he stands on sb 1070. does he support it or oppose it? >> here's the answer. governor romney supports the right of states to craft laws that assist the federal government in enforcing immigration laws, particularly when the federal government failed in its duty to enforce those laws. that is one issue the supreme court is trying to decide. doesn't answer specifically the question about whether or not he supports sb 1070. what about the candidate's recent record, does that shed light on where he stands? let's take a look. jan 11th as he was campaigning in south carolina, governor romney was touting the endorsement of kansas secretary of state crisco batch who wrote the law. we need more conservative leaders like chris, willing to stand up for the rule of law. with kris on the team, i look forward to working with him to
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take steps to curtail illegal immigration and support south carolina and arizona that are stepping forward to address this problem. he's highlighting the endorsement of 1070's author talking about forceful steps talking about arizona and south carolina. talking tough like he's a hard liner as well. after losing south carolina, just before the primary in florida, which has a larger latino population, there was a different tone. listen. >> the answer is self-deportation. which is people decide that they could do better going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal documentation to work here. >> that's shortly before the primary in a state that has a -- days before competing in arizona with its large hispanic population, governor romney called arizona a model but not for the law that coe back wrote.
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>> they passed a law here in arizona that says that people that come here that try and find work, that the employer is to e-verify. >> that's a different law than sb 1070. recently the -- telling politico last week he's a supporter, not an adviser which was news to coe back that his relationship with the campaign has not changed. the campaign has since changed their tune that he's an informal adviser. it's just as hard to nail that other clue to where exactly romney stands on this. in this video he's campaign with mark rubio who is a potential running mate and supports a version of the dream act. it requires they pass the citizenship for immigrants that enter the country as children. governor romney seemed to take a tough line, at least on the original. >> the question is, if i were ee electriced and congress were to
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pass the dream act, would i veto it, the answer is yes. >> he appears to be making a pivot. the revised is something he's studying. he wouldn't however make any commitment to it. he restated his commitment to securing the border with mexico promising a plan of his own but refused to give any specifics. >> i anticipate before the november election, we'll lay out a series of policies that relate to immigration. i've spoken about the need to have a visa system that's right-sized for the needs of our employment community. and so how we adjust our visa program to make it fit the need of our country is something i'll be speaking about down the road. but i don't have anything for you on that. >> no specifics there. seemingly, a move away from the hard line of the need to win conservatives began to fade and the need grow toss win more moderates in the general election. one way of looking at it. also to closing latino gaps down as much as 40 points in a recent poll. governor romney seems to be
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changing his tone on the immigration issue but not offering policy specifics. at the end of the day, where does he really stand in which mitt romney would people be getting to become president? a moderator or the hard liner? why not both. quote, i think he can embrace both of us and win the election. lots to talk about with the adviser of the leading obama super pac and senior romney adviser, babe buchanan, author of bay. >> he has for several years been on this strong anti-immigrant position which has helped him in the primaries but hurt him with latino voters. this is old school. nixon used to say this. run to the right in the primaries and run to the middle in the general election. that was over 40 years ago. that dog don't hunt anymore. we have the miracle of
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videotape. i think this is causing him grievous damage. i don't think it will be undone. >> he's clearly trying to pivot you think. >> i think my spanish speaking friends would call a liar. he's lying now to get hispanic votes. i think the voters see through that. >> bay, where does he stand on sb 1070? >> he supports it. he made it very clear he supports arizona's right to pass laws and try to enforce them when the federal government refuse toss do so. >> he talks about the e-verify law, not sb 1070. >> no, no. he supports this law. it's what the states are going to do. he believes the states have a right to do this and he supports their designing whatever they think is necessary to protect their own citizens. he said that the law for e-verify is a model. he likes that. he thinks all states should look at that and see. >> we specifically asked -- >> e-verify as a model. he doesn't say he doesn't
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support the others. >> let me -- we specifically asked his campaign about sb 1070 and they gave this answer about he supports the rights of states of laws. he then talks about e-verify. >> he supports this. if it's what the state sfeels right for them. arizona obviously does. they passed it overwhelmingly. then he supports that. he doesn't say it should be a model for all states. he said e-verify should be a model. paul said he's anti-immigrant. governor romney is not anti-immigrant. he's posed to illegal immigration. he believes there's an obligation to enforce the laufts land and secure our border, something barack obama has failed to do. year after year after year. that's why the states have to take the action they do. >> did you say that he does believe sb 1070 should be a national model or doesn't? >> he never said it should be a national model. he said e-verify should be. that doesn't suggest he doesn't
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support this. he thinks that north carolina's bill is a little different. he supports the right for north carolina to design what's best for north carolina. utah, other states. georgia, alabama. there's other states doing the same thing. making a little different. he doesn't believe that this particular bill should be a model for all of the states. he thinks those states should decide for themselves. but he thinks that the e-verify law in arizona is exceptional and would be an excellent model for other states. >> we can check the record, bay, but i remember governor romney saying the arizona immigration law, sb 1070 is a model for the nation. he didn't say e-verify was a model. we'll look that up. >> you just saw it. we just saw the clip. >> i know. when he was campaigning earlier, he said -- attacked rick perry on immigration for the dream act. >> be careful when you call someone a liar. that's a little serious. >> it is very serious and i mean it. >> he's owed an apology if
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you're wrong, paul. >> he attacked john mccain on i am dprags from the right and rick perry for signing a dream act for the state of texas. >> absolutely. >> he attacked newt gingrich for wanting some sort of legal status. >> yep. >> he attacked rick santorum for confirming sonia sotomayor. >> i'll check. >> he made no change to his position. he continues to be opposed to any amnesty. he continues to believe that enforcing the law is essential when you're part of the federal government. that that's only fair. he believes that e-verify is an excellent program that should be used by all businesses in this country. he has not changed his position one bit. >> do you believe, paul, that he has tailored what he has emphasized based on what states he's campaigning or -- >> there's no doubt. if he was campaigning in new hampshire for example and said kelly iot is on -- those lists
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are often wrong. if mitt romney, when he was speaking to cannibals, he would promise them missionaries. he's the most elastic, flexible guy. >> isn't that something all politicians do? >> he's like the mohammed a lie. all boxers throw punches. seriously, bay, it's not what -- i'm telling you, you can't run from the extreme right pro-arizona immigration law and then a few weeks later, just because the dates have changed the election has changed and the electorate has changed, pretend we're not watching, it's insulting to fib like that. >> you're manufacturing that. he has not changed at all. impart of this campaign. i'm talking to the people in boston. i'll tell you what we do. anderson pointed out, candidates
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say different things out there. and your candidate certainly has. there's something that we know about barack obama is that he has used his power to trample the -- this is second time his policies have been before the supreme court. sotomayor has said we're not buying this argument. it is unconstitutional these lawsuits against these states. >> what's before the court is arizona law. bay, not the obama law. second -- >> what are they doing suing the state? >> because of the federal -- >> an abuse of power. >> you're saying each state should have another law. then there's chaos. there's an international border there. it's the federal government responsibility to patrol that. by the way, president obama has put more boots on the ground in the mexican border since woodrow wilson was chasing poncho villa. it's dropped to a trickle.
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>> trickle. >> i'm not -- a lot of liberals are not thrilled with that. the truth is, the if mitt romney were actually concerned about stemming illegal immigration, he'd be supporting barack obama. >> supporters of sb 1070 will say the tough laws in places like arizona has diskurnld. >> a combination. you can't get a job. >> that means that mitt romney was wrong, bay, when he said that people come here for welfare benefits for a handout. now there's no more work, they're not coming anymore. i think president obama's boots on the ground has helped. i'm not living in arizona so i can't say. i'd be skeptical. it seems to be an overbroad law and seems to be particularly, i think, risky in terms of civil rights. >> i want to give you the final comment and we got to go. >> none of the states shouldn't have to take any of these actions if the federal government would have the guts to do what they are obligated to
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do and that is enforce the immigration laws of this land. because they refuse, brave men and women across the states have come up with their own bill to protect their citizens. i say god bless them. >> bay buchanan, paul b e.g., ala. thank you very much. more shocking testimony in the john edwards trial. this thing gets stranger and stranger day by day. even after he told his wife about it, also how he and a top aide and an enabler nearly came to blows at one point. that's next. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier.
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crime and punishment. another day, explosive testimony in the john edwards criminal trial, once again, the former presidential candidate and fallen democratic star arrived with his eldest daughter at his side. on the stand for a third straight day, his former top aide and once good friend, andrew young, is now the prosecution's star witness. young has given blistering testimony about his role in covering up his boss' affair with rielle hunter and the daughter that they had together. edwards is accused of breaking federal law by using hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations to pay for the cover-up. today young testified about an invoice he drew up for one of
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the wealthy benefactors who was paying for hunter's expenses. the invoice totaled more than $200,000. including $28,000 for a car for hunter and $40,000 in cash for her allowance. prosecutors also played voicemails edwards left in december of 2007 on young's cell phone. in one message, edwards said i talked to elizabeth and i think it's under control. five days later he left a message saying, please tell her i said hello. and i'll call later tonight. the her was rielle hunter. the messages suggest the affair was continuing even after edwards' wife found out about it. of course, no one outside of edwards' inner circle knew about at the time. this is the john edwards that we all saw at the time. just days after he left those messages, campaigning in iowa with his wife of more than 30 years. the jurors also heard about young's crumbling relationship with edwards. as the coverup dragged on. young testified the two men came close to throwing punches at each other during a meeting in 2008. at the time young was pretending
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to be the father of hunter's child. after pictures surfaced with hunter and their daughter, young said edwards promised to admit the affair publicly. but in an interview with abc's bob woodruff, he flat out lied about the baby he fathered. >> i need to ask about the most controversial allegation. which is that a report has been published that the baby of miss hunter is your baby. true? >> not true. not true. it's a supermarket tabloid. that is absolutely not true. >> have you taken a paternity test? >> i have not. we would welcome participating in a paternity test. i would be happy to participate in one. i know that it's not possible that this child could be mine, because of the timing of events. so i know it's not possible. >> it was not only possible, it was a fact. when it came time for the defense team to cross-examine young today, they ripped into this guy young. pointed out multiple inconsistencies in which he told the fbi, a grand jury, the media and what he wrote in a tell-all
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book called "the politician." edwards lawyer painted him as a vindictive liar. he read an e-mail exchange between young and robert draper referring to edwards, young wrote, no, i want to personally blank on his head. draper wrote back, no, in his mouth. john edwards was clearly pleased with his performance. he was caught on camera speaking to his daughter cate as they left the courthouse. joe johns was in the courtroom today. so was bob woodruff of abc news who did that interview. they both join me now. bob, great to see you. what's it like for you to see john edwards in court? i mean, he sat directly across from you, face to face with you, on that interview on "nightline" back in 2008. and was just not telling you the truth. >> that is absolutely true, anderson, he was not telling the truth. we found all the details out as
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we went on. and being in the trial, in the court with him, we didn't make many eye contacts, just like he did with anderson -- or i mean when andrew actually -- andrew young was actually speaking and testifying up there. he didn't really make any contact with him either. but it was a little bit difficult to be sitting there in a trial at a time when everything's changed. >> it's so fascinating, bob, to rewatch that "nightline" interview. he's looking at you as if he doesn't even understand what you're possibly asking him, about the child being his. when at the time he knew the child was his. i want to play another clip from that interview. this really deals with the core of the charges against him. let's listen. >> there are reports that there was money paid to try to cover up this affair. was there? >> can i just say everything you're saying, there are reports, there are allegations, these are all things in supermarket tabloids, which make the most outrageous allegations
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every week. so that's -- let's start with the source of this information. this is what i can tell you. i've never paid a dime of money to any of the people that are involved. i've never asked anybody to pay a dime of money. never been told that any money's been paid. nothing has been done at my request. so if the allegation is that somehow i participated in the payment of money, that is a lie. an absolute lie. which is typical in these type of publications. >> since then, bob, the edwards defense team has tried to pin the payments on and you young and his wife. did you find his answers to be credible at that time? >> no, they're not. there's three things he said there. he said, i didn't pay. i didn't tell anybody to do it. and i didn't hear it happened. certainly the latter two were obvious. you know that he and fred barron were close friends. there were voicemails that
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indicated that he and fred and certainly actually young actually spoke together about these details. they communicated with each other. there are voicemails from john edwards right there to young as well. and so you know they had these discussions. they knew there was money. that was ending up to try to help rielle hunter. he certainly knew young did not have that kind of money. and he almost certainly knew this was coming from fred barron. as for him spending it, probably not. he did not write the checks. he did not put it on his credit cards. but he certainly knew all these details. and i think we'll hear a lot more about that during this trial. >> that's what's so significant about that interview you did, bob, because this was the interview where he was basically confessing, where he was confessing the affair. and just from a public relations standpoint, to give a confessional interview to a reporter of your stature, and then to continue to lie in that interview, i mean, that takes real hutzpah.
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>> hutzpah is probably a good word for it. i think he maybe thought he would be able to pull this off. i think there was this real disillusion he had at the time. i think his situation was -- you know, he's had interesting issues going through his mind, i can only assume. i certainly hope he just admits that, that he's having this affair and that it was a very short period of time. and maybe people will believe that and he's not going to have to talk about the really important one, which is that this is probably his baby. and the big question is, did elizabeth, his wife, know that this was his baby. >> yeah. >> that's the question. she really did not want to think that that was his baby. and when andrew came out, andrew young came out and said that he is the father, i think elizabeth had a great bit of relief. i don't think that landed long. >> joe, today was the first time edwards' defense team had a crack at cross-examining andrew young.
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they really lit into him, trying to raise inconsistencies, they pointed his inconsistencies in his book. his roller coaster of feelings towards john edwards. really undermining andrew young. that's the key to their defense, isn't it, joe? >> absolutely. he's the star witness, anderson, for the prosecution. without him, it's very difficult to make a case here, i think. when we watch the cross-examination today, you really had a sense of just how important he is to the case. abby lowell, the lead defense lawyer, literally reading lines page for page from the book written by andrew young. and questioning him about it. you lied when you wrote this. you made that story up, didn't you. but the end of the day, anderson, it's important to say the question is whether the nucleus of the case holds, and that's about intent. the intent of john edwards to violate campaign finance laws. if the prosecutors can hold on
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to that, they may still have a case. >> joe johns, thanks for that. abc's bob woodruff. great to have you on the program. thanks so much. coming up next, new details about america's first case of mad cow disease in six years. we reported on this last night. the question is, did the system work or is the system not up to the job of keeping our food safe? we'll tell you how many cows are tested every year out of the millions that are killed. details ahead. (female announcer) most life insurance companies look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic.
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important question tonight about the food you eat in the wake of the first american case
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of mad cow disease in six years. the bottom line is, is it safe. that's the question. keeping them honest. it's neither easy nor simple to say. tonight we know more about the infected cow that turned up at a rendering plant in california. it's been traced back to a dairy farm elsewhere in california. the congressman who gave us that information said the discovery demonstrates a string of america's mad cow surveillance system. those are reassuring words, no doubt about it. also reassuring words last night from secretary of agriculture tom vilsack on john king usa. >> this is the way the system is supposed to work. we're supposed to identify these circumstances and make sure they don't get in the food supply. our trading partners should be reassuring the markets. we were reassured once we found out it would not get in the food supply. the markets rebounded. i think we'll be in good shape tomorrow. >> so far, so good. or so it would seem. the carcass had been randomly selected for testing. it went to a lab at uc davis, where the results were inconclusive, and in ames, iowa, that it came back positive.
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the lab concluded that the bse likely did not come from feed, that it was likely the result of a genetic mutation in the animal itself. no diseased meat got into either the human or animal food chain. keeping them honest, the system is far from perfect when it comes to spotting animals that unlike this one here in the video aren't already showing signs of disease. the system relies on randomly testing cattle for bse. that's how they found this latest infected cow is randomly testing. get this, only about 40,000 head of cattle are tested each year, out of a herd of nearly a 100 million cows, bulls and calves. the question has always been is that enough. 40,000. experts disagree on it. in addition, if the disease had come as it often does from infected feed, one expert said authorities would be hard pressed to locate other cases. the center for science and public interest said they lack effective ways of tracking livestock.
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the u.s. has a system. but a third world animal identification system needs to follow the food we eat or feed other animals as it travels through the supply chain. in other words, maybe the system worked or maybe we just got lucky. i talked about it earlier with sanjay gupta earlier. can you explain what mad cow is, first of all? >> this is a neurological disease where you have some sort of pathogen. scientists believe it attacks the brain, attacks the central nervous system of a cow and causes them to have these neurological symptoms. the specific pathogen, there's very little known about this in comparison to bacteria or viruses. it's also worth noting, the best we can tell is a cow probably has the prion in their system for a long time, before they develop any symptoms. >> so how easily is it spread, sanjay? >> it's pretty hard to spread. even among cows. what they've learned over the years in the last 15, 20 years
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is that likely it's spread by cows eating body parts of other cows. and it's tough to think about it that way, but specifically the body parts are the central nervous system body parts. so the feed is made oftentimes from animal parts. in this case, cows. and if you get components of the brain, the spinal cord into that feed, they believe that's how this prion, this pathogen is spread one cow to the next. >> lisa, you're concerned this might not be an isolated event and we don't know for sure. because the government tests such a tiny fraction of the slaughtered cows? >> that's right. the usda tests only about 40,000 of the 35 million cows that are killed every year. that's just a tiny fraction. and so they're not looking very hard for mad cow disease, and so they're not finding it very often. >> sanjay, the usda said the fact that this was detected is evidence the system does work, despite only a small percentage of the cattle are tested. >> you know, it's interesting.
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i think the best analogy is like a biopsy, is what elisa is describing as well. not testing every single cow, but going in and trying to figure out what is the best sample size to find these cases of mad cow disease. the cow we're talking about here as you know did not have any symptoms. so it was found on the basis of screening. whether that sample size to elisa's point is large enough or not is tough to say. >> sanjay, are there other steps being taken to ensure the food supply isn't contaminated? >> i think the whole notion that we know where the prion, this pathogen that likely causes this lives, avoiding getting that into feed, is the number one thing. i think on a consumer level, you think about the fact that if you are worried about this, and it's a very, very remote chance anyone would contract this this way, 1 in 1 billion chance of getting a creutzfeldt-jakob, which is the variant in humans of mad cow disease, you know,
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you could avoid eating meat that's directly attached to a bone, for example. avoid eating bone marrow. certainly avoid eating parts of animals and cows that are anywhere close or related to the brain or spinal cord and try and avoid eating animals that have been fed any of those things as well. that's on the consumer level. >> elisa, your group is pushing the usda for more testing. is it financially sustainable? do you want every animal tested? >> well, there's another way to increase surveillance that we think the usda is remiss about. there are private companies that want to spend their own money to test their own beef so they can sell their beef to other countries that have decided they didn't want to buy u.s. beef. those companies in the united states that want to test their own meat have been prohibited from doing so by the usda. we think that's wrong. we think they should be able to test their own meat.
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they should be able to label it bse tested. and they could use the same test that the usda uses. but usda has forbidden it. >> what about pets, sanjay, are they at risk? >> for some of the same reasons we're talking about, the idea that you could get these specific parts, again, it's tough to describe it this way, but these parts of animals that have the brain and spinal cord in it, into feed of other animals, possibly. in theory, it could happen. there has been a sort of variant in cats described. it's known as feline spongiform encephalopathy. don't need to remember the name but that's the cat version of mad cow disease. it can happen in dogs. i don't know there's a reported case in the united states. i think it's unlikely. not all animals will be susceptible to it as others. in theory, again, if you trace the feed chain here, that's where people are trying to focus their attention as well. >> i appreciate it. thank you very much. still ahead tonight, the strange story of an elderly
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washington, d.c. socialite found murdered in her home. her husband has been charged with first-degree murder. but whether the case ever goes before a jury is the question. we'll tell you why. first isha is here with the 360 bulletin. opposition activists in syria say the assad regime is ramping up its campaign of violence. at least 100 people are reported killed today across the country. activists say security forces are targeting people who spoke to u.n. monitors. despite the fallout from the secret service scandal, president obama has full confidence in the agency director mark sullivan. that word today from the homeland security secretary. nine members of the service have resigned or are being forced out. three others have been cleared of serious misconduct. today british police released a new image of madeleine mccann showing what she might look like at age 9. she vanished nine years ago with her family. investigators believe the little girl may still be alive. and take a look at this
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spectacular light show in italy. courtesy of mother nature. that is mount etna. erupting for the seventh time this year. we're told people who live near the volcano are not in any danger. anderson? >> isha, thanks very much. a strange murder case is in limbo. a well-known washington, d.c. socialite was killed by her much younger husband. but the bizarre behavior in court has delayed this trial. that story is next. "ñfñ
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murder trial of a man accused of killing his much older wife last summer is delayed tonight because of his bizarre behavior. the death of his wife more than four decades older than he is opened a window on to the relationship and his eccentric habits. when police were dueled this home in upscale georgetown, the bathroom seemed the scene of a terrible accident. by all -- the well-known d.c. socialite was dead. as a journalist, she had written for many influential publications. she kept company with the rich and powerful. her husband told police he found the body and according to keith alexander with the washington post, he gave a plausible story. >> although he was 44 years younger. coming along after her first husband died. they'd been married more than 20
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years. united in part by a shared german background. neighbors thought him peculiar. >> it's true that he would walk around in outfits that were army outfits and have a cigar and he was a bit eccentric for sure. >> did you think he was in the military? >> no. >> friends like warren and sunny adler -- and the other was dismissed.
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>> they have some things in common to make us feel young again. do you think that she really loves him? >> she does. >> but within hours of the body being found, police were turning up evidence that suggested he felt differently. accord to an arrest affidavit, he said it was a marriage of convenience. he had no job and in search of the home, police found a letter muth presented to the family after her death. it was dated the day before her body was found. signed in her name and instructed the family to hand over at least $150,000 if anything happened to her, according to the affidavit. then the medical examiner dropped a bombshell. he said she had not fallen, she had been beaten so badly, that bones were broken and she had been strangled. police picked up albert muth,
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then things got strange. in court, even as his appointed attorney tried to argue that the evidence was not enough to tie muth to the crime, he interrupted to say he wanted to represent himself. he went on a hunger strike. he suggested an outside killer was to blame for the murder, even though police say there was no sign of a forced entry. and he suggested he should be treated as a captured military officer in keeping with stories he had told for years. >> he claimed to be a general in the iraqi army. >> he claimed a lot of things. >> he also claimed he was a spy for foreign countries. he claimed that he was of european aristocrat descent. >> is any of this truth? >> none of it is true. >> reporter: amid all that, the court sent him for psychiatric evaluation to see if he could even be held accountable for the horrible crime that happened here. and this psychiatric hospital, for the moment, is where he remains. undergoing tests to determine if
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he truly understands how his long strange trip into d.c. society circles led him to face a charge of murder in the first degree. tom foreman, cnn, georgetown. >> a bizarre case. i spoke earlier to jeffrey toobin about it. jeff, the details of this case are unbelievable. you can't make this stuff up. >> it is really a great case, you know, obviously it's grounded in the tragedy as most crimes are. but at the core, it's that same problem, that the criminal justice always has, is this defendant crazy or is he crazy like a fox. >> you say it's a good case of insanity and competency. >> that's right. and those are separate questions. i think sometimes people think they're the same question. before you even get to the issue of sanity, you have to decide, or a judge has to decide whether someone is competent to stand trial and make those decisions. that's where this case is stuck, just like in the tucson shooting
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case, the jerod loughner case. that case is stuck, too, and maybe stuck for a long time, while the judge determines whether the defendant is fit to stand trial. >> if he is found competent, though, to stand trial, he can still use an insanity defense, correct? >> that's right. that's a separate thing. that's actually -- it's a very high standard. people often talk about the insanity defense as if people can just do it, and walk off. most people who claim an insanity defense are convicted anyway. jurors are very skeptical of insanity defenses. frankly, i think they're likely to be skeptical of one here when you have this history of domestic violence. and a history of shifty behavior that's eccentric, but suggests that at least muth has some sort of connection to reality. >> the process of delaying the trial could go on for years, couldn't it? >> it could go on for years. i mean, that's what's so
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frustrating about the whole issue of competency to stand trial. is that it can be an indefinite process. it may be that you're not fit to stand trial in 2012, but then you become fit, you know, through the use of medication, and whatnot, to stand trial in 2014. that means the trial starts in 2014. which is very frustrating and difficult for the legal system. >> jeff toobin, thanks. disturbing claims of bullying at a new jersey school, more disturbing because the teachers are accused of doing the bullying. one father put a recording device in his autistic son's pocket to hear what was going on in the classroom. what he found out next. meineke's personal pricing on brakes.
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that's personal pricing. so is it possible to crash a gubernatorial election? we ponder that in the ridiculist, but first isha is back with an update. >> anderson, two current and two former tsa employees have been arrested accused of taking bribes to let drugs go through security at l.a. international airport. a grand jury indictment refers to five incidents from february to july of last year. it said tsa screeners accepted money to look the other way while suitcases full of cocaine, meth and marijuana passed through the x-ray machine. at least one teacher at a cherry hill new jersey school have been removed after a father recorded what was going on in his autistic son's classroom. he put a recording device in his 10-year-old son's pocket and said he captured six hours of recordings of teachers talking about alcohol and sex in front of students. and displaying what he called a
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culture of bullying. >> we'll be talking to the boy's father tomorrow night on "360." in an online statement, the school district said anyone heard on the recordings raising their voices inappropriately addressing children no longer works there. on wall street today, big gains from apple and boeing. the dow rose 89 points. s&p gained 19. nasdaq was up 68 points. and anderson, pay attention now. apparently there's growing interest in the international beard tournament. this tournament in germany featuring 163 men from all over the world competing in 18 categories. >> was that blitzer? it was not wolf blitzer. as you can see, the competition was stiff. they must use exorbitant amounts of hairspray i'm guessing. i'm thinking you should try a
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little facial hair. >> i've tried. it doesn't work. doesn't work for me. i get little patches of gray. not pretty. >> so tragic. >> that's amazing. my gosh. wow. >> i was hoping if you could do it, you would be like a young santa claus, a young father christmas. >> i don't know how to take that. i would have one like that one right there. with the big -- yeah. >> we need to work on your style. >> thank you. the man best known as white house party crasher lands up on the ridiculist ahead.
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time now for the ridiculist. tonight we're adding the salahi scoffers. i know what you're thinking. who? tareq salahi. the guy who crashed the white house state dinner with his wife whose claims to fame are starring in the real housewives of d.c. and being kicked off of celebrity rehab because she wasn't really addicted to anything. that guy. well, it looks like tareq salahi is determined to get into political events one way or another. now he's thinking about running for governor of virginia. oh, how the scoffers are scoffing. what makes this guy qualified to be governor of anything, they ask? aren't his 15 minutes up, they demand? i beg to differ. let's break it down for you. we already know this guy, salahi, comes up with creative solutions to problems, like not being on the guest list for a white house state dinner, for example. when you think about it, isn't the real housewives just meet the press with fancier outfits and slight eye rolling? >> this is where we ask for your
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complete silence. >> washington is not a place that responds well to showy people. >> i think he's obnoxious. he's turning off everyone. >> he made this up. nobody was ever escorted out of there. >> you're the only bull [ bleep ] around here. >> we're married six years november 1st. am i a good husband that i know the date? i am good. >> get rid of your husband. >> i think what best prepares him for public office is his ability to spin a story. like when he said his wife may have been kidnapped then the next day everyone found out she'd run off with the guitarist from journey. >> she wanted to go to more of the a-celebrity, if you will. more money, more fame. it's an '80s band. she's acting like a 16-year-old jumping on a tour bus from the '80s. >> whoa, whoa. take it easy on the '80s music there, mr. salahi. this is journey we're talking about. neil can rock a mean guitar solo. ♪
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♪ don't stop believing >> guessing he will not be using that as his campaign song. >> going on a tour bus with a rock band. that's what a groupie slut does. >> he just lost the groupie vote. which is unfortunate because they're quite a strong constituency. enthusiastic, extremely loyal, willing to travel. in any event, the next few years are shaping up to be interesting politically. tareq salahi running for governor of virginia. we have that to look forward to. then there's this. >> i decided i'm going to run for the mayor of glendale. >> noel and i are looking into the requirements. and i'm literally going to have a huge -- she's going to help me with my campaign. >> not to mention this. >> vote hank for u.s. senate. >> like any savvy campaigner, he's gotten ads, stickers, signs, even a facebook page.
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